Tuesday, April 28, 2009

George W. Bush on the difference between democracy and dictatorship

"It's important for people to understand that in a democracy, there will be a full investigation. In other words, we want to know the truth. In our country, when there's an allegation of abuse ... there will be a full investigation, and justice will be delivered. ... It's very important for people and your listeners to understand that in our country, when an issue is brought to our attention on this magnitude, we act. And we act in a way in which leaders are willing to discuss it with the media. ... In other words, people want to know the truth. That stands in contrast to dictatorships. A dictator wouldn't be answering questions about this. A dictator wouldn't be saying that the system will be investigated and the world will see the results of the investigation."

And on the treatment of war crimes: "War crimes will be prosecuted, war criminals will be punished and it will be no defense to say, ‘I was just following orders."

The former quote is from the video below, the latter quote is from this March 2003 CNN transcript.

(First quote via Dispatches from the Culture Wars, second quote via The Agitator.)

And, for your edification, please read Scott Horton's article, "Busting the Torture Myths."


Ktisophilos said...

Shall we begin by prosecuting Nancy Pelosi who was briefed on use of ‘Enhanced Interrogations’?

Jim Lippard said...


It's unclear whether the details of the use of waterboarding were part of the briefing.

(Also see this.)

Ktisophilos said...

Yet even the ├╝berliberal Daily Kos about 18 months ago referred to Pelosi's "complicity over the last five years."

Ktisophilos said...

Here is the soi-disant non-partisan FactCheck.org piece:

Pelosi's Tortured Denials21 May 2009
The facts behind the speaker's changing story about her knowledge of CIA waterboarding.

Jim Lippard said...

I'm fine with adding Pelosi to the list of officials to be punished for complicity in torture.